Re: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Nov 13 2004 - 23:31:05 GMT

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    I've said enough already, but ...

    "Shouldn't we teach what people believe to be true ?"
    True, but why would "intellectuals" bother to debate / argue what is true, if the truth could be found by popular democracy ?

    "They call it God now only because they don't know about Quality ?"
    I don't mind what they "call" it, but I am concerned what they think it is. Whether they call it God or Quality, I'd be horrified if they thought it was a transcendent purposeful being.

    "Allowing room for both God and Darwin ?"
    But why must it always be a binary debate ?

    Ian
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Richard Loggins
      To: moq_discuss@moq.org
      Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:51 PM
      Subject: Re: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

      Hi all,

      I have to wonder if nearly half of adult America sees something - a creative something - that is missing from Darwinism and science at large that lies behind everything it bludgens into mindless mechanisms. They call it God now only because they don't know about Quality, but all these people sense something that they are not willing to sluff off. Science doesn't seem to be making inroads into their beliefs, because it's missing something key: the creative source of all things. All the more reason in my view that Creationism or ID should be taught side-by-side with evolution. Those are closer to the truth of the MoQ and it is what people believe. Shouldn't we teach what people believe to be true?
      Rich

      From the Nov. 2004 issue of National Geographic -
      "According to a Gallup poll drawn from more than a thousand telephone interviews conducted in February 2001, no less than 45 percent of responding U.S. adults agreed that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Evolution, by their lights, played no role in shaping us.

      Only 37 percent of the polled Americans were satisfied with allowing room for both God and Darwin-that is, divine initiative to get things started, evolution as the creative means. (This view, according to more than one papal pronouncement, is compatible with Roman Catholic dogma.) Still fewer Americans, only 12 percent, believed that humans evolved from other life-forms without any involvement of a god.
       
      The most startling thing about these poll numbers is not that so many Americans reject evolution, but that the statistical breakdown hasn't changed much in two decades. Gallup interviewers posed exactly the same choices in 1982, 1993, 1997, and 1999. The creationist conviction-that God alone, and not evolution, produced humans-has never drawn less than 44 percent. In other words, nearly half the American populace prefers to believe that Charles Darwin was wrong where it mattered most."

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