From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Nov 13 2004 - 20:21:01 GMT
thanks very much for this quote. Timely.
DM
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Subject: Re: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching
In a message dated 11/12/04 9:51:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, markheyman@infoproconsulting.com writes:
And thanks for the moral support re my line of argument here. When I
first got involved with the list six months ago I was gung ho,
thinking everyone I met was really interested in discovering some MoQ
based consensus of "the truth." After numerous long discussions with
various people, discussions wherein it was obvious my point was made,
as my final arguments were left unanswered, I was dismayed to see the
same people, a few posts later, talking to someone new but starting
over spewing the same old shit. That's when I realized that most
folks here (there are exceptions and Scott is one of them) are
looking to promote one or another religious or political or anti-
intellectual agenda, and that their interest in "truth" is but a
convenient pose.
Hi msh,
Is it pure truth we are seeking?
From "Zen"
" ... Truth won, the Good lost, and that is why today we have so little difficulty accepting the reality of truth and so much difficulty accepting the reality of Quality, even though there is no more agreement in one area than in the other.
... Phædrus remembered a line from Thoreau: "You never gain something but that you lose something." And now he began to see for the first time the unbelievable magnitude of what man, when he gained power to understand and rule the world in terms of dialectic truths, had lost. He had built empires of scientific capability to manipulate the phenomena of nature into enormous manifestations of his own dreams of power and wealth...but for this he had exchanged an empire of understanding of equal magnitude: an understanding of what it is to be a part of the world, and not an enemy of it. "
Chin
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