From: mel (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Tue Nov 16 2004 - 15:45:42 GMT
Small correction...Dresden was
primarily a British operation
as I recall...
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[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Steven Heyman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:05 PM
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Subject: Re: MD the worst thing about 9/11 according to the MoQ
On 15 Nov 2004 at 18:14, Ascmjk@aol.com wrote:
The United States sent the world a message with Operation Iraqi
Freedom. The terrorists can knock down buildings. The United States
can knock down entire governments. The terrorists INTEND to kill
civilians. The United States does NOT. Repeat, the US does NOT intend
to kill civilians!
msh says:
Let's set aside for the moment the historical fact that the US most
certainly has deliberately killed civilians, in Dresden, Nagasaki,
Hiroshima, Royan in France at the very end of WWII for no military
reason other than wanting to test Napalm, which would then be used to
kill more civilians in North and South Vietnam, Laos, illegal and
secret carpet-bombing of Cambodia... Not to mention financial,
military, and diplomatic support of Indonesia's genocide in East
Timor, direct military, financial, and logistical support for death
squads in El Salvador and Guatemala, direct terrorist strikes against
the democratically elected government of Nicaragua..... Well, it
goes on and on, and back to the very beginnings of the country.
Instead, let's focus on the first few days and nights of the recent
US invasion of Iraq, when hundreds of Cruise missiles were fired into
Baghdad business and government centers and surrounding
neighborhoods. Conservative estimates put the civilian death toll at
well over a thousand due to these missile attacks alone. In what
sense, precisely, is this not intentionally murdering civilians?
What's the argument? "Well, we didn't tell them to be sleeping
there, in their homes, at 3am, dammit. They got in the way!"
Jon, your little essay is nonsense, the rantings of a mind horribly
brain-washed of historical reality. Sorry. Nothing personal: you
can probably blame it on your parents, or maybe Rush Limbaugh or
something, Bill O'Reilly. Or have you been hanging around with my
friend Platt? Anyway...thanks for the fantasy diversion.
Good luck in the asylum,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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