Re: MD Evil & Buddhism, or Politics & Buddhism

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Sun Nov 21 2004 - 09:40:10 GMT

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    Hi DMB,

    > I'm not saying you have to be a liberal intellectual to be a MOQ, but
    > certain views are ruled out by it. Its not about who gets to be a member of
    > the club, its about taking an honest and responsible approach to the
    > structure and meaning of the ideas that make up the MOQ. If it has all the
    > precision and power of a motorcycle, then it also has a certain integrity
    > and it can only take so much banging and tinkering before the thing breaks
    > down.
    > I'm not necessarily talking to Scott and mel. It goes out to anyone who was
    > stung by it. If this makes you uncomfortable, then I'm talking to you. And
    > since Sam is apparently quite comfortable making "improvements" to the MOQ,
    > I'll add that I am most certainly talking to him anyway.

    The impression you give is that a) it's inconceivable that Pirsig might be wrong on something, and
    b) it's inconceivable that DMB might be wrong on something. The MoQ is your God and RMP is your
    prophet. Ironically enough, I think there is little that RMP would disavow more strongly than that.
    Consider annotation 151 in Lila's Child "The answer is that Pirsig doesn't like being unnecessarily
    arbitrary. If someone likes five levels, he can have them. It's still the MOQ, even though he
    personally prefers four levels." If RMP can be relaxed about amendments to the MOQ - and say 'it's
    still the MoQ' - why are you so uptight about it? Methinks a shibboleth lurks.

    Sam

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