Re: MD New Level of Thinking

From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Fri Nov 26 2004 - 18:21:03 GMT

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    Hi Scott,

    > One can apply the same logic to DQ and SQ, but if one does, one gets
    > something different from the treatment of these as given in the MOQ.
    > The
    > MOQ tends to idolize DQ at the expense of SQ, for example by assuming
    > that
    > the mystical goal is to experience pure DQ by putting all SQ to sleep.
    > But
    > the logic of contradictory identity will see that as going off the
    > Middle
    > Way. DQ and SQ are contradictory identities, so it makes no sense to
    > speak
    > of "pure [DQ] experience" which is then SQ-ized by intellect. Rather,
    > DQ/SQ
    > interaction is what makes experience happen.
    >

    I'm not sure that what you are saying about the logic of contradictory
    identity is inconsistent with the MOQ. I think it is a mistake to say
    that the MOQ speaks of '"pure [DQ] experience" which is then SQ-ized by
    intellect.' Such a role for intellect in creating SQ sounds like Scott
    Robert's MOQ rather than Pirsig's. I think the MOQ says that Quality is
    pure experience which can be analyzed with a DQ/SQ distinction that
    serves better than an objective/subjective one. DQ is not pure
    experience but rather the leading edge of experience.

    Thanks,
    Steve

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