Re: MD New Level of Thinking

From: PhaedrusWolf@aol.com
Date: Tue Nov 30 2004 - 03:53:15 GMT

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    In a message dated 11/29/04 10:14:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    jse885@earthlink.net writes:

    I said that Pirsig treats
    intellect negatively *with respect to DQ*, that he treats it as covering up
    DQ. Both you and Pirsig seem to think that intellect's primary function is
    to describe.

    Hi Scott,
     
    May I ask where you get the idea Pirsig treats intellect negatively? I have
    been racking my brain on this as to how one could draw these conclusions. The
    whole idea behind MOQ seems to be based on the highest intellectual thought,
    as it was not built on, but fills a gap in scientific intellect as science
    is "Value free." In PODV, he does not deny, but is trying to support Bohr's
    'Complimentary' by showing that there is no requirement of an object before
    testing waves and particles, as Quality fills this void.
     
    He is quite hard on the 'Bricks and Mortar Universities' or 'Traditional
    Education', but also the Church, or 'Traditional Religion' as well as any
    philosophers who he does not agree with, and even those he does.

    If you mean that he treats the mindless garbage passed off as intellect,
    then I would agree he does, as well as anyone who has the ability to think
    critically and independently.
     
    Maybe you could define the intellect you speak of independent of the
    intellect he uses to build the MOQ on. Just 'Intellect' can cover a wide range. I
    need to know exactly what intellect you are speaking of in order to see if it
    is Pirsig's view, or the view of the intellectuals that is inadequate. I fear
    I may believe it is the view of the intellectuals that their theories are the
    one-and-only truths he may view negatively.
     
    Is it mathematics, history, science, theology, or just simply academics in
    general?
     
    Respectfully,
     
    Chin

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