From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Dec 02 2004 - 13:51:02 GMT
Ian:
> You said
> "Is it not an absolute that the MOQ supports individual autonomy within the
> constraints of the MOQ framework" You're just playing the linguistic game
> of semantics with "axiomatic statements of the pragmatic" again. No, the
> MoQ is not absolute, just the best emergent framework we humans currently
> have - it will evolve like the rest of us - yes, not just the biological
> and higher, but even the hard physical layer, as we learn more and more
> fundamental physics.
Looks like your assume those layers, the framework of the MOQ, will
absolutely always be physical, biological, social and intellectual even
though what we "learn" about them may change. To think the physical world
changes because of what we know about strikes me as hugely self-centric.
(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
> You said
> "Sanctioning what such luminaries as Stalin, Hitler and a host of secular
> tyrants decided was good for humanity." Utter garbage and you know it, you
> scaremonger. What is your game ?
I didn't say what they did was good for humanity. They sold there
particular brand of horror by claiming it was good of humanity. Don't you
see, both secular and religious tyrants appeal to the "virtue" of serving
the public good and humanity. That's how they obtain their power,
promising a better life, here or in heaven. The tortures of the
Inquisition were done to "save" the souls of the victims. Today, Bin Laden
has convinced millions that humanity would be better by following him.
> No way does a relative morality sanction such things.
A relative morality believes that whatever is right is whatever works in
society to assure inner harmony. Thus, one society should not judge the
ethical practices of another.
> I predict your next mail will be smartass remark about my statement
> "The MoQ is not absolute" being axiomatic and absolute.
.
I think he's got it! Or at least, beginning to get it. :-) Many who shrink
from absolutes like vampires from crosses rarely realize (or admit) how
many absolutes govern their thinking, like "I'm certain it's all relative"
and "The only thing certain is change."
Platt
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