Re: MD Is Morality Relative?

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Mon Dec 06 2004 - 18:53:34 GMT

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    Hi Ham,

    > Ham) -- That's an undeserved compliment. But thank you, anyway. I no longer
    > consider myself a Christian, as I am not a theist and don't subscribe to the
    > tenets of a personal deity.

    I infer from the above that you think that to be a Christian one must be a 'theist' (and subscribe
    to 'the tenets of a personal deity' - whatever they might be).

    Regarding this sort of debate (that 'theism' must be rejected, and so, therefore, must
    Christianity), Denys Turner writes this: "...since today my purpose is to encourage the atheists to
    engage in some more cogent and comprehensive levels of denying, I shall limit my comment to saying
    that thus far they lag well behind even the _theologically_ necessary levels of negation, which is
    why their atheisms are generally lacking in theological interest... such atheists are, as it were,
    but theologians in an arrested condition of denial: in the sense in which atheists of this sort say
    God 'does not exist', the atheist has merely arrived at the theological starting-point. Theologians
    of the classical traditions, an Augustine, a Thomas Aquinas or a Meister Eckhart, simply agree about
    the disposing of idolatries, and then proceed with the proper business of doing theology." (Denys
    Turner is a top professor at Cambridge, and one of my favourite theologians).

    From an initial reading of your website, and taking some notice of your varied comments in the
    forum, it seems pretty clear to me that what you're arguing for fits quite happily into the
    onto-theological tradition. Are you familiar with Jean-Luc Marion's "God without Being"? If you're
    interested, I could point you in the direction of where these issues are currently being discussed
    within academic theological circles.

    Sam

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