Re: MD Pirsig - shock therapy in real life?

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Wed Dec 08 2004 - 13:54:15 GMT

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    MoQ'ers all, and Kurt, if you're still lurking ...

    Some of you may be aware I've been corresponding with Robert Pirsig over
    biographical details, and he's been very very helpful so far as his
    memory and documentary records permit. I have a much more detailed [and
    personal] biographical timeline almost ready for publication, but given
    the nature of the additional detail, I'm ensuring Bob's blessing before
    I republish.

    One of the most intriguing aspects is to trace his mental cycles from
    "being in pursuit" of something through "giving up the ghost" of reason
    etc. One of the relevant aspects was in this older thread.

    His EST was real enough, but the hospitalisation episode in ZMM is a
    pastiche of several episodes over three years, where the EST event was
    actually towards the end of that period. The point to note, concerning
    the development of his ideas is that the two periods from being in
    pursuit of writing a book (after Korea) to Sarah's "Seed Crystal"
    moment, and the period of Archaeology of Phaedrus (after the breakdown)
    up to publishing ZMM is very much longer than the very brief interlude
    between the seed crystal in Bozeman through the whole of Chicago to the
    breakdown.

    My speculation would be that the EST did not itself enable him to "see
    things clearly", like some instant Zazen meditation and enlightenment.
    What it did was re-set his brain, so that in the peace that followed he
    was better able for synthesis and expression of ideas that had
    undoubtedly arisen in a previously inspired, creative but frustrated
    mind.

    Kurt's curiosity would seem well directed.
    (States of consciousness are a subject I'm researching at the moment,
    and I'm sure Dr Jame Austin whose study of meditative, traumatic and
    chemical induced states of brain / mind is part of that, would have
    something to say about Bob's states of mind, if he asked him.)

    Ian

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