RE: MD Mysticism or Cosmic Debris?

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Dec 19 2004 - 23:20:34 GMT

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    Hi Dan,

    It's always nice to hear from you. :-)

    On 19 Dec 2004 at 16:09, Dan Glover wrote:

    >msh:
    >I don't want to seem overly cynical about this, but it seems like
    the
    >paths to guided enlightenment are directly proportional to one's
    >disposable income, I just don't get the sense that the gurus are
    >working the ghettos.

    dan:
    It's not my place to judge whether or not you're being cynical but
    I'd like to ask: How do you know? Have you lived in or visited many
    ghettos? A "yes" to either question would in my opinion lend a great
    deal more credence to your words than saying so makes it.

    msh says:
    I live in a ghetto right now. But I can't really say whether any
    gurus have come around because I'm too scared to answer the doorbell.

    dan:
    Still, from what I understand, there are those folks who do live in
    or visit ghettos and by the nature of their deeds could be considered
    "gurus." Yet these people never seek aggrandizement so we haven't
    heard of them. Does that mean they don't exist?

    msh says:
    Is this one of those tree falling in the woods questions?

    dan:
    To your deeper question:

    I don't believe the paths to guided enlightenment are directly
    porportional to one's disposable income, but perhaps it helps. As the
    old saying goes, when you're up to your arse in alligators it's tough
    to remember that you're there to drain the swamp.

    I believe there are many paths but enlightenment we carry in our
    heart. I've heard it said that when a person is ready a door will
    open. Experience tells me this is a wise statement. But then again
    experience also tells me that a person meditates better when they're
    hungry.

    msh says:
    I kinda like the sound of this. Thanks.

    >Here ya go:
    >
    >The mystery man came over.
    >He said: "I'm outta sight."
    >He said: "For a nominal service charge
    >You could reach Nirvana tonight."
    >
    >If I was ready, willing and able
    >To pay him his regular fee,
    >He'd drop all the rest of his present affairs
    >And devote his attention to me!
    > Frank Zappa - Cosmic Debris

    dan:
    What with winter fast coming on, I think we should make sure to heed
    Mr. Zappa's advice on yellow snow too.

    msh says:
    I knew you'd know your Zappa. Watch out where the huskies go... :-)

    Happy holidays,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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