Re: MD Pirsig an artist - MoQ & love

From: john66@attbi.com
Date: Mon Jan 27 2003 - 19:33:10 GMT

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    ---Matthew Stone <mattstone_2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    >If love is synonymous with value, why use
    >the term love at all?

    I don't think it is synonmous all the time, just in that sense Rick was using
    it. I think Love is the doer, it is love that actually appreciates value
    enough to make an effort to bring about the future, to be effected by the pre-
    conditions. Otherwise, B would value pre-condition A, but never get off its
    ass to actually become B, it would just be stuck. It would just value but not
    have any energy, any motive power.

      

    >If person A loves person B, and you say
    >this merely means there is a pattern of value whereby
    >person A values person B, this doesn't really explain
    >love as a value (pattern) in the general sense.

    Well, person A is in the habit, or has a pattern, to do what he should for
    person B. I think that's pretty general.

    >it doesn't explain love
    >in a broad sense. It only explains love as in
    >'loving', as a verb, not as the noun form that John
    >Lennon sang about.

    I see love as a verb (to do what you should is loving), and as a noun (the
    power that moves people and things to do what they should, what is expected of
    them).

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