Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Mon Dec 27 2004 - 10:56:38 GMT

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    Hi MSH, Chin, DMB et al,

    > msh says:
    > So conviction is the key? I'm not trying to be difficult here; I'm
    > really very interested in this subject, and I appreciate the time you
    > and Sam and others are taking with this. I'm trying to understand
    > how one might differentiate the Brujos from the Mansons. Clearly
    > their say-so isn't enough, is it?

    I've been browsing in William James again, to try and meet Chin's request, and it's nice to come
    across things that are useful. So on p400 of my edition (not quite the same as the on-line text), he
    says: "The Vedantists say that one may stumble into super-consciousness sporadically, without the
    previous discipline, but it is impure. Their test of its purity, like our test of religion's value,
    is empirical: its fruits must be good for life."

    Or, in the Christian tradition, you can judge a tree by its fruits. "And what is good,
    Phaedrus....."

    Sam

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