Re: MD Re: Is Morality relative?

From: Erin (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Jan 02 2005 - 00:39:34 GMT

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    ARLO:
    Perhaps the teaching here is that to the question "Are there absolutes?", the
    only possible answer we can give is "mu"... which Pirsig makes clear is a
    viable and reasoned answer.

    ERIN: Except it doesn't really explain to somebody why you choose to not say yes or no. I prefer Horse's response of " If something is
    absolute then it is so in all possible worlds and at all times.
     Given that humans do not have this knowledge making such statements is
    pontless and without meaning."
     

    msh says:
    I think I should point out that, though I believe there is absolute
    truth, I do not believe that there is some moral absolute that
    applies at all times in all situations. Because some statements are
    absolutely true doesn't mean that every question has an absolute
    answer.

    Erin: I'm not really getting why claiming knowledge of absolute truth is justified.

    msh: OF COURSE context is
    necessary to make moral judgements. Except for religious whackos who
    imagine they have a hard-wire connection to the mind of God, who
    would claim otherwise?

    Erin: well, actually when you claim to know absolutes, it does appear to be claiming to be hardwired into a super consciousness or something along that lines... A twist on an old joke: What is the difference between an Absolutist and God. God doesn't think he's an Absolutist.
    I thought this is funny.

    Platt: Pray, what am I missing?

    Horse: Context.

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