Re: MD Understanding Quality And Power

From: Charles Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Sun Jan 16 2005 - 21:24:14 GMT

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    Bon Soir Carbon-Based Life Forms Wherever You May Be,

    If I may, regarding Platt, offer a short anecdote:

    Early in the morning I greet my family first, drink coffee and
    eventually find my way to my beloved Mac, just arm's distance for a
    moment if I can, we power up and after the brief boot sequence, I click

    the postage stamp; "Mail" opens. I snatch prose and thoughts, read and

    ponder, and talk back at my Mac in intermittent spurts while I prepare

    to leave the house. More often than not, there's plenty MoQ to get me

    all bunged-up for the rest of the day. However, if there's something
    from Platt, something not just from Platt, but you know one of those
    posts that oozes Platt-ness all over everything else in your "In-Box"
    and maybe stuff may have needed to refer back to in "Deleted Items" or

    a really brilliant essay you had going in "Drafts," that gets all
    saturated with the Platt-ness, man, you know, that's better than
    caffeine as wake-up calls go, a true rush! It's like guzzling the
    entire pot of coffee and then immediately pouring another fresh-brewed

    pot on your own head.

    Here's an example. I'm reading Platt's latest musings. He's decidedly

    lucid and hops along in a generally concise manner, but via empty
    platitudes of which I usually disagree and then, something simple and
    beautiful happens, such as,

    "When flipped into the air, the coin shimmers and dances in the light.

    I'm sure I haven't made myself clear, but Dynamic Quality is such an
    elusive phenomenon that using words to describe it is like trying to
    thread a needle with boxing gloves. But whenever I want to get in
    touch with it, I just sit back, close my eyes and listen to
    Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No. 2. A walk in the woods is good, too."

    I sit back and think, "whoa, was that Platt or Kurt Vonnegut?"

    After that brief moment in which it's possible just maybe I've gotten
    this Platt fellow all wrong, I get back to reading the remainder of his

    message and the next bit will go something like:

    ...and all fans of rock 'n' roll are degenerate, commie-Satanists...

    and I think, "whoa, Platt or Archie Bunker?"

    In reality, we're all a chaotic bundle of evolving conundrums.

    Questions:

    What would the alternative reality be like?

    What would a Platt-less MoQ be like?

    Answer to both questions:

    I don't want to know

    When I need to get back in touch with Dynamic Quality, I play John
    Lennon songs on my guitar (poorly). This morning, I played "Instant
    Karma." I substituted "Dynamic Quality" for "Instant Karma" in the
    lyrics. I've reproduced it below in case anyone is interested.

    John Lennon, for what it's worth, wrote like Pirsig in that he made
    notes and quotes on bits of paper and stuffed then in his pockets and
    then in dresser drawers at home. He said he was finished when he had
    enough to make a book.

    Best regards,

    Chuck

    Ps Long live Rock 'n' Roll!

    Dynamic Qualitys gonna get you
    Gonna knock you right on the head
    You better get yourself together
    Pretty soon youre gonna be dead
    What in the world you thinking of
    Laughing in the face of love
    What on earth you tryin to do
    Its up to you, yeah you

    Dynamic Qualitys gonna get you
    Gonna look you right in the face
    Better get yourself together darlin
    Join the human race
    How in the world you gonna see
    Laughin at fools like me
    Who in the hell dyou think you are
    A super star
    Well, right you are

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Evryone come on

    Dynamic Qualitys gonna get you
    Gonna knock you off your feet
    Better recognize your brothers
    Evryone you meet
    Why in the world are we here
    Surely not to live in pain and fear
    Why on earth are you there
    When youre evrywhere
    Come and get your share

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    Come on and on and on on on
    Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    On and on and on on and on

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun

    On Jan 16, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

    > Poot,
    >
    > I know exactly what you mean ...
    > You said "I feel that if I can not somehow shed light into the mind of
    > Platt, then I will forever be barred from making progress ... I can
    > never
    > build an argument concise enough to infaliibly prove my point"
    > Problem is "infallible" arguments depend on logic and absolutes,
    > anything
    > which doesn't is fair game for that skeptic Ant was referring to.
    >
    > ie Nothing personal Platt, but you personify a challenge to the
    > intellect
    > that seems to frustrate.
    > Despite the fact few seem to share any value in your opinion, it seems
    > necessary to argue against it.
    > That damn catch-22.
    >
    > Ian
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Matt poot" <mattpoot@hotmail.com>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:34 AM
    > Subject: RE: MD Understanding Quality And Power
    >
    >
    >> Hello anthony,
    >>
    >> I just write briefly now, as it is quite late.
    >>
    >> For quite some time, I have disagreed with Platt on many different
    >> occasions, and have for some time sat out of discussions here at
    >> MoQ.org .
    >> This issue concerns me greatly, because I feel that if I can not
    >> somehow
    >> shed light into the mind of Platt, than I will forever be barred from
    > making
    >> progress in the world around me, as there are many of like mind.
    >>
    >> I can never build an argument concise enough to infaliibly prove my
    > "point".
    >> By this, I mean making Platt "understand" the serious
    >> miscalculations
    >> involved in his judgements.
    >>
    >> Although I can not say that I have any right to say what is "right"

    >> and
    >> "wrong" , there is just an unshakable disbelief that someone of such
    >> intelligence can be so blind in some respects.
    >>
    >> I would continue further, but I suppose you get the gist of what I
    >> mean to
    >> say. I wish to somehow change platt without forcing him out of
    > discussion.
    >>
    >>
    >> Poot

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