From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Jan 20 2005 - 14:33:28 GMT
Hi MSH, Ant, All,
> msh asked:
> > Can you at least provide a specific report that supports your
> > opinion, one with verifiable references, and maybe even include a
> > little analysis of your own? Otherwise, it's very difficult to
> > believe that you are serious about investigating this issue.
>
> Instead of a response, we get The Holden Circularity:
> How about providing some evidence that the media doesn't have a
> liberal bias?
Instead of response, MSH disappears behind a cloud of smoke in a desperate
attempt to avoid engaging in debate.
> msh says:
> How does one prove a negative? You're the one making a positive
> claim, that the media are biased, that they follow a "liberal" or
> anti-Bush agenda.
In debate, "Be it resolved that the mainstream media has a liberal bias,"
the opponent is obligated to convince the audience that the charge isn't
true. That you or won't or can't speaks for itself.
> As evidence, you've referred us to Goldberg's
> book. Ant McWatt beat me to it, and provided some good evidence
> refuting Goldberg's one testable assertion, that the media identify
> (label) people as "conservative" far more than they identify liberals as
> "liberal," thus supposedly suggesting that conservatives are out of the
> mainstream, on the fringe, way out there and whacky.
As evidence I referred you to website replete with evidence that the media
have a leftist bias. If you refuse to accept the evidence, that's your
problem not mine.
> What is your response to Ant's refutation of this?
Ant's response is that nothing is to be believed unless it's follows the
format required for a PhD thesis. That eliminates 99 percent of everything
written.
Regards,
Platt
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