Re: MD Understanding Quality and Power

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Mon Jan 31 2005 - 10:30:48 GMT

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    Platt, is this the same person who demands logical objectivity before
    entertaining rational argument ?
    Nice one.
    Ian
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    From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>; <owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk>
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    Subject: Re: MD Understanding Quality and Power

    > Hi Scott,
    >
    >> Here's the Merrell-Wolff quote:
    >>
    >> "While in the State [of High Indifference, as he called it], I was
    >> particularly impressed with the fact that the logical principle of
    >> contradiction had no relevancy. It would not be correct to say that this
    >> principle was violated, but rather, that it had no application. For to
    >> isolate any phase of the State was to be immediately aware of the
    >> opposite
    >> phase as the necessary complementary part of the first. Thus the attempt
    >> of
    >> self-conscious thought to isolate anything resulted in the immediate
    >> initiation of a sort of flow in the very essence of consciousness itself,
    >> so that the nascent isolation was transformed into its opposite as
    >> co-partner in a timeless reality....It seemed to be the real underlying
    >> fact of all consciousness of all creatures." [Experience and Philosophy,
    >> p.286]
    >
    > Thanks for the quote. I wrote the following poem in 1990 to my daughter
    > who was dying of brain cancer. If I understand what Merrell-Wolff says, my
    > poem reflects his view, at least partially. I wonder if you agree.
    >
    > Black is true
    > So is white
    > Dark is true
    > So is light
    > Each alike
    > Each apart
    > Yet both are one
    > At nature's heart.
    >
    > Straight is true
    > So is round
    > Silence is true
    > So is sound
    > Each is different
    > Each a pole
    > Yet both are one
    > In existence whole.
    >
    > Reality to us
    > Seems to be split
    > Black and white
    > Distinct parts of it
    > But black could not be
    > Without white there, too
    > Both are one
    > In the broader view.
    >
    > You and I
    > Are like these poles
    > Two things apart
    > With separate souls
    > Each unique
    > Each a face
    > Yet both one
    > In timeless space.
    >
    > The world we see
    > Divided and split
    > Is an illusion we need
    > To survive a bit
    > Each is born
    > Each will die
    > Yet both are one
    > In reality high.
    >
    > The real we see
    > Is not the real
    > Though joy and pain
    > Is what we feel
    > Trapped to ground
    > We look above
    > And know the truth
    > Through faith and love.
    >
    > We are one then
    > You and I
    > Faith and love
    > Are binds that tie
    > And in my life
    > Where'er I go
    > You'll be there too
    > In the essence flow.
    >
    > The touch of eye
    > The lilt of smile
    > Have joined us now
    > And for all the while
    > So when we part
    > And life seems done
    > Down deep you'll know
    > That we are one.
    >
    > Platt
    >
    >
    >
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