Re: MD Pure experience and the Kantian problematic

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Wed Feb 09 2005 - 18:29:21 GMT

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    Mark,

    Looking back I see two posts, one 11/16 and one 11/18 that refer to the
    square root of two business and the empirical roots of mathematics. I
    responded to the lengthier 11/16 post (on the 17th), but not the 11/18 one,
    and I think I didn't because I didn't see anything there that wasn't just a
    restatement of what you said in the 11/16 post, nor did it respond to what I
    said in my 11/17 response to the 11/16 post. If there is something that you
    think I overlooked, by all means, let me know, (Just to confuse things,
    there is another 11/18 post of yours in the Empiricism thread that I did
    respond to, but it was not about mathematics).

    - Scott

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:31 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Pure experience and the Kantian problematic

    Hi Scott,

    I'm interested in this one point...

    On 8 Feb 2005 at 21:33, Scott Roberts wrote:

    Scott:
    When it [what Scott believes to be a fuzzy understanding of the word
    'empirical'] results in someone saying that we know empirically that
    the square root of two has no rational solution, or that we know
    empirically that what mystics experience is an "undifferentiated
    aesthetic continuum", then the word "empirical" has lost all value.

    msh says:
    I thought I made a pretty good case for the empirical foundations of
    mathematics, which you may or may not remember. I agree with you on
    clause 2, above, but think math is quite firmly rooted in our
    empirical "grasp" of the world.

    Should I state my case again, or can you find it in your records or
    in the archive? I'm pretty sure you never responded to it (nor has
    anyone else), but I could be wrong, obviously. I'd be interested to
    know what you think.

    Best,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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