From: Erin (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Mar 19 2005 - 19:36:03 GMT
I agree it is kind of sad hearing little kids hear/like songs like that. My friend is an elementary school teacher and some of the notes by 2nd graders she has found has blown my mind.
But it is so silly to dismiss all of rock-n-roll as degenerate because some of the songs are not appropriate for children to know.
Last night I just watched an old movie the Apartment where they passed a key around to a guy's apartment to cheat on their wives. C'mon Platt a lot of degenerate activity was going on in your time, -was it more, same, less---don't know because it was so hush hush.
Erin
Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com> wrote:
Arlo wrote:
> But I thought you were of the opinion that rock's "degeneracy" was founded
> in its tribal, sexual beats, and its motivation to induce people into acts
> of sexual debauchery? Here you seem to contradict yourself by saying that
> music that drives people to engage in sex acts is okay if its
> "well-written" (as defined by you)? Your Mozarts and Sinatras and Peggy
> Lees, even though their music whips people into sexual frenzies, is
> perfectly okay with you, eh?
If you can you find such blatantly sexual lyrics as this ever sung by
Frank Sinatra or Peggy Lee, let me know:
"How u like it, daddy (the way she do it from the front)?
How u like it, daddy (the way she do it from the back)?
How u like it, daddy (then bring it down like that)?
"And she know why she came here
And she know where clothes suppose to be (off and over there)
[Bleeped 'Sniff a lil' coke, take a lil' X, smoke a lil' weed,'] drink a lil' bit
I need a girl I could freak with
And wanna try [bleeped 's--t'] and ain't scared of a big [bleeped 'd--k']
And love to get her [bleeped 'p---y'] licked by another [bleeped 'b---h']
Cause I ain't drunk enough to do that [bleeped 's--t']"
Pete Pablo - "Freak-a-Leak" video, shown on MTV to 10 year olds and up.
Looks to me like Bloom's analysis of rock is right on,. and Pirsig came up
with the perfect word to describe it -- degenerate.
Platt
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