RE: MD Nihilism (Punk)

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Sun Mar 20 2005 - 20:10:45 GMT

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    Erin wrote:

    > My point was that promosicuity was around long before rock-n-roll. To say
    whether rock-n-roll has led to increased promiscuity is hard because then it
    was all hush hush and now it is more open. Has it increased or are people just
    admitting to it now? I wonder if somebody who constantly talks about
    promiscuous sex (positively or negatively) is degenerative? I think anything
    can be degenerative if you don't have control over it---so I don't think I
    agree with focusing on just one thing obsessively. If a priest imagines
    molesting boys---is it not degenerative until he actuallys does it? If it is
    then how is your obsession with promiscuity also not degenerative?

    Arlo says:

    Great point, Erin. And Kudos for not falling prey to his attempted rhetorical
    shift with you as well. You had explicity stated your concern with small
    children experiencing adult sexual themes, a concern I share with you and most
    other people. Platt rejoined with a (surprise!) shift to indicate you were
    supporting his prudish condemnation of sexual themes "in toto".

    In many ways, Platt reminds me of the Jimmy Swaggarts and such ilk, who spend
    all their time trumpeting the immorality and condemnation of sex, only to
    reveal themselves to be the grandest exemplars of that which they condemn
    (e.g., Swaggart's fondness for banging prositutes). The old adage is true more
    often than not, we condem most in others that which we see in ourselves.

    Platt's obsession with "sex and promiscuity" is quite degenerative, and really
    speaks volumes.

    But, with music, Erin, you just watch. Despite its more obvious veneer of being
    concerned soley with sex, there is a greater foundation to his analytic knifing
    than he has yet to state explicity.

    For if it was truly "sex", promoting promiscuity and "the beat of sexual
    intercourse", he would condemn with as much vehemence the sexually themed songs
    of Peggy Lee, Ravel's Bolero (which, as Bloom stated, is a sexually beat song),
    and the crooning of Sinatra (which drove countless teens to get laid back
    then). Instead he exempts them for the same reasons he then turns and uses to
    justify condemnation of "rock" in another post. But this is only contradictory
    if you don't see the higher-level "division" Platt is making.

    It's not hard to guess what this "division" of Platt's really is. As I stated,
    it's patently obvious to anyone looking for underlying relation between the
    music he condemns and the music he exempts.

    Arlo

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