Re: MD Re: Pirsig Institutionalized, part I, part II

From: Joseph Maurer (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Mar 21 2005 - 18:28:24 GMT

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    On Saturday 19 March 2005 Matt writes to Joe:

    [Matt] So, I wish I could say I understood what you were saying. I believe I
    got
    the general drift, but I'm sorry we can't strike up a dialogue to resolve,
    what I have to believe, are our apparent differences. There's just little
    way for people to get a handle on what you're saying so as not to sound
    foolish when responding to you.

    Hi Matt and all,

    I am sure being and sounding foolish is not a problem. I have read Lila.
    "The general drift" is a plus.

    IMO morality is a difficult subject. War is a difficult subject! "Teach
    others sense" "put them on the right road" is a psychic-organic need in
    people which helped destroy the League of Nations' efforts to put an end to
    war. IMO this is an astute observation. I think Pirsig had the same feeling
    about his project. Take the teaching out of it by writing Lila in such a way
    as to minimize the damage a teacher causes. See for yourself! Look at how I
    live! I think it is very astute of you to question what he was about. I just
    can't help but add: What of the MOQ? Is there a psychic-organic connection
    to linguistics? Translators have a hell-of-a-job!

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction@hotmail.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:05 PM
    Subject: RE: MD Re: Pirsig Institutionalized, part I, part II

    > Hi Joe,
    >
    > Ya' know, I've never been able to make much sense out of the things you
    > say. It's certainly not because, as you remarked recently, you're a
    > plumber. It's just never apparent to me how what you say matches up,
    > refers, or, except in a very general sense, connects up to the things
    > you're responding to in other people.
    >
    > You've surrounded yourself in an aura of Socratic irony, which by its very
    > nature exudes a slight sense of superiority. You're not the only person
    > to do that around here, but the effect on others is to make them a little
    > annoyed. You're irony is never as thick as it is in others, but combine
    > it with the confusion caused by your more conspicious obscure,
    > nigh-invisible angle of commentary, and it just doesn't sit well most of
    > the time.
    >
    > So, I wish I could say I understood what you were saying. I believe I got
    > the general drift, but I'm sorry we can't strike up a dialogue to resolve,
    > what I have to believe, are our apparent differences. There's just little
    > way for people to get a handle on what you're saying so as not to sound
    > foolish when responding to you.
    >
    > Sorry,
    >
    > Matt
    >
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