From: john williams (ducati900@bigpond.com)
Date: Wed Feb 05 2003 - 11:04:52 GMT
Hi Sam
"Anarchism is not a fixed set of ideas; it's a tendency in human thought
> that is trying to identify kinds of authority and domination and, if they
> can't justify themselves which they rarely can, to work to overcome them.
> that means overcoming state authority. It also means overcoming the
> autocracy of capitalist enterprise, which is simply another form of
> hierarchy and domination. It means overcoming sexist repression. Whatever
> you find. Sometimes authority can be justified. So, for example, you stop
a
> three-year old kid from running across the street into traffic. That's
> authority, but I think you can give a justification for it. However, the
> burden of proof is always on those with the authority. They have to
> demonstrate that their authority and control is legitimate and that
> justification can very rarely be given." (Chomsky)
Hear, hear
John from The Rock
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizaphanian" <elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: MD The Quality of removing Saddam Hussein from power.
> Hi John,
>
> > I wouldn't call your post on going to war the veiws of a conservative
> either, seems pretty radical to me.
>
> Perhaps I shouldn't be accepting other people's (DMB's) descriptions of me
> then :o)
>
> Unlike almost all conservatives I've ever met, I do quite like reading
> Chomsky, for example, even when I disagree with his ultimate conclusions.
I
> think authority can be justified more often than the 'rarely' in the
> quotation below - but I do agree that authority needs to be justified.
> That's the transition accomplished by, first and foremost, John Locke.
Where
> my perspective differs from some others (eg Chomsky or DMB) is that I
don't
> think 'reason' or 'intellect' is, by itself, an adequate guide - that
there
> is a higher authority than that. But that's a whole other thread...
>
> Sam
>
> >
>
>
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