Re: MD Access to Quality

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Thu Apr 07 2005 - 06:10:24 BST

  • Next message: Wim Nusselder: "Re: MD Access to Quality"

    Ham,

    Unless I am misreading, this a little unfair...

    > In case you didn't see this dual-choice question in my previous postings,
    > here it is.
    >
    > Suppose that at your death you are faced with having to make a
    > voluntary choice between the following two options:
    >
    > Option 1 (Nothingness): You may choose that, effective immediately, your
    > proprietary awareness, including all memory of your life-experience will be
    permanently erased. Your "consciousness-of-self" will, in effect, return to
    > the nothingness from whence you came.
    >
    > Option 2 (Somethingness): You may choose "psychic continuity" in a form or
    mode that is presently incomprehensible to you and that can only be revealed by
    choosing it beforehand.
    >
    > Which would you choose, and why?

    In this case you seem to presuppose that "belief in continuation" provides
    "continuation". If "Somethingness" was merely a function of "believing in it",
    this whole discussion would have to be seriously adjusted.

    If "somethingness" was what awaited, even the "non-believers" would attain it.
    And, if "nothingness" existed, even the "believers" would fall into it.

    Jung had posited that we are witnessing a crisis of age, and I see this
    worsening every year. People are more and more afraid of aging and death, are
    running from it on the physical, social and emotional levels. I agree with Mark
    that religion opiates this fear, but only temporarily, and undealt with it
    grows in the psyche until we see thanatophobia epidemics. Religion historically
    has manipulated this fear by saying that "somethingness" is guarded by
    nationalistic or tribal bounds. Only "some" will achieve "somethingness", which
    echoes your options above. Religion asks you to "choose" somethingness or
    nothingness, as if your choice effects the outcome. Or rather, it presupposes a
    "somethingness" that is open only to those who believe in the "somethingness".
    Since most people have not been helped to achieve peace with "nothingness",
    they run away from this, and right into religion's open arms.

    Whether "somethingness" or "nothingness" awaits us, the key is to be at peace
    with that. Ultimately, this is the psychological maturation people should
    strive for, not dogma that tells us it has the answer, but strength not to need
    the answer, and to be at peace.

    MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    Mail Archives:
    Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    MD Queries -

    To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Thu Apr 07 2005 - 06:15:20 BST