Re: MD Static and dynamic aspects of mysticism and religious experience

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Apr 10 2005 - 07:01:44 BST

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    Sorry Wim - are you saying "Quantum Physics" is an intellectual
    pattern of behaviour ??!!??!!

    Pirsig very kindly included a physical layer in his model, to
    accomodate such things as the physical world. You apparently don't
    believe quantum physics is physical - right ?

    Where to start ?

    Obviously certain "theories" or "explanations" of quantum physics are
    intellectual patterns, but physics is physics surely. Even Pirsig had
    to start there.

    Ian

    On Apr 10, 2005 1:24 PM, Wim Nusselder <wim.nusselder@antenna.nl> wrote:
    > Dear Marsha,
    >
    > You wrote 9 Apr 2005 15:24:39 -0400:
    > > Since Quantum Physics doesn't exist at the Social Level, how is it being
    > > compared to Dynamic Quality at that level.
    >
    > That was exactly my point:
    > At the social level intellectual patterns of value (intellectual quality),
    > e.g. Quantum Physics, can only be compared with Dynamic Quality by their
    > effects in terms of changing social patterns of value. Change in social
    > patterns of value caused by (or rather: valued by) an intellectual pattern
    > of value is indistinguishable from change in social patterns caused by
    > (valued by) Dynamic Quality.
    >
    > With friendly greetings,
    >
    > Wim
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