From: Steve & Oxsana Marquis (marquis@nccn.net)
Date: Thu Apr 14 2005 - 20:07:53 BST
Matt wrote:
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The reason for the confusion is because Pirsig builds the distinction around
two descriptors, not one. "Creative" is on the "philosopher" side of the
distinction, but so is "inattentive to history."
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Hi again Matt. My whole argument applies only to the 'creative' descriptor.
I agree that attentive or inattentive to history probably cuts across the
first descriptor like you suggest, and that can lead to confusion. I am
taking Pirsig's point in kind of a holistic way, rather than focusing on
just the one passage. This is keeping in the spirit of the argument as
opposed to technical correctness.
Matt:
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My argument is that Pirsig's distinction _forces_ us to decide who the real
philosophers are, when the spirit of his philosophy tells us that we
_shouldn't_ decide.
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Agree. Who the real philosophers are cannot be determined 'objectively', a
point I made in my other post. But, in all fairness to Pirsig, could he not
be addressing the reader to the reader's own judgment of himself rather ran
the judgment of others?
So, after much clarification, we may be closer to agreement than at first
reading. Maybe you will read both of my posts before responding to the
first one :).
Live well,
Steve
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