Re: MD Access to Quality

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Tue Apr 19 2005 - 20:06:35 BST

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    Ian,

    Ian said:
    Spookily, Scott's last line in his most recent mail in the Kant /
    Experience thread is

    "Of course, [] is an a priori choice [in MoQ] , so the claim for
    empiricism also goes."

    Am I agreeing with you Scott ? Stranger things have happened, and as
    you know I believe in synthesis - building on agreement.

    Scott:
    Well, I don't know. I've been saying for some time that I reject the claim
    that the MOQ is "empirical". The MOQ claim is based in part on the idea that
    mystical experience is experience and therefore empirical. I reject that --
    not that it is not empirical to the mystic, but that it serves to support
    the claim that a metaphysical system, the MOQ, is empirical. In doing so it
    devalues the word 'empirical' in terms of its validating usage. In the case
    of mysticism, there are two problems. One is that mystics say all sorts of
    things -- some talk of an undifferentiated reality, and others talk of being
    in the presence of God, and others of other things. The second is
    interpreting the mystic. In the message from which you took the last line
    above, I was pointing out that even within that most "simple" venue of
    mysticism -- Zen -- there can be differing interpretations, which will
    result in different metaphysical systems, and there is no empirical test for
    choosing between them.

    - Scott R

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