From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 21 2005 - 03:00:09 BST
Erin, let's not get off track with an "You said I said you said" debate ..
The WILL TURN OUT TO BE REAL statement was NOT about "Consciousness"
It was about "Consciousness beyond the confines of a mind" - something
slightly more mysterious.
Back to the meat - we have something worth debating I feel.
Ian
On 4/21/05, Erin <macavity11@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>
> Erin, you said
> It is like you (Ian) are saying that the consciousness is not real
> because science has not explained it yet. You believe they will
> explain it one day but this belief is not faith in science because of
> its good explantion which is errrr "a gap in knowledge"
>
> IAN: I say, I'm saying absolutely nothing of the kind.
>
>
> ERIN: You said "For example, I do in fact believe that intelligence and
> consciousness beyond the confines of individual brains (or minds) will turn
> out to be real - explainable by physics." WILL TURN OUT TO BE REAL --my
> interpretation is fair to me considering what you wrote
>
> NOW you say you believe " Consciousness "is as real as anything else" in
> this real world."
>
>
> IAN: The fact that you see fit to paraphrase / caricature what science says
> that way is the kind of thing that drives me nuts, particularly
> slipping in those causal "becauses".
>
> ERIN: No Ian I only know what you think by what you tell me...don't blame
> me if you contradict yourself.
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