RE: MD Creativity and Philosophology, 2

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Apr 24 2005 - 23:31:50 BST

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    Matt and all:

    DMB said:
    Philosophy is supposed to be about life and if your philosophy is about
    philosophy then it is not about life.

    Matt replied:
    Are the books we read not part of our lives? ...As I quipped in my paper,
    "Why is the experience of a book relegated to a lower position than the
    experience of a hot dog?"

    dmb says:
    OK, now you're just being stubborn. Are you really gonna sit there and
    pretend the difference between hunting whales and reading Moby Dick is
    meaningless?

    Personally, books mean a helluva lot more to me than hot dogs do. Most of
    what I think and believe comes from books, but that's not the point.

    As I keep trying to point out, Pirsig's MOQ was born out of experience;
    namely his realization that books and ideas and reason can only take a
    person so far. At a certain point, shortly after his conflict with the
    Chairman, he saw the fultility and limits of intellect. And it wouldn't be
    too much of an exaggeration to say that the whole point of the MOQ is to
    provide a framework that does not dismiss that kind of decidedly
    non-literary experience.

    Matt said:
    So, say what you will that what I write is dead and boring and lifeless...

    dmb replies:
    OK. But let me remind you that you have a choice here. You can continue to
    take my complaints as a personal insult. A better and more accurate choice
    would be to take my complaints as an attack on certain ideas that don't
    really have much to do with you personally. (I would complain no matter WHO
    said it.) Or you can choose to be flattered that I see you and your ideas as
    such a threat. I mean, if I had no respect for your talents I probably
    wouldn't bother to complain at all.

    I mention this because people who feel they are under attack can't hear very
    well. It has a way of clouding the mind.

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