Re: MD Scientific beliefs and religious faith

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue Apr 26 2005 - 07:37:04 BST

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    Hi Mark,

    A quickie on the core question:

    > msh:
    > To me, a belief is faith-based if it is held in the absence of
    > supporting empirical evidence, using my understanding of empiricism
    > stated above. By this definition, a child's belief in Santa or the
    > Tooth Fairy is faith-based. As is a Christian's belief in the
    > divinity of Jesus, as is a Catholic's belief in transubstantiation.
    > In contrast, a NASA scientist's belief that he can land a rover on
    > Pluto (so far not done) is nevertheless not faith-based. Similarly,
    > the Christian's faith-based belief is CLEARLY different from the
    > flexible belief of scientific assumptions, which are made for
    > pragmatic, not emotional, reasons. Please note, cuz I want to say
    > this only once: This DOES NOT mean that Jesus is not the son of God;
    > it means only that such a belief is not rational-empirical.

    Where would you put beliefs like 'my partner loves me'? Or, 'Nelson Mandela
    is a good man', or 'the provision of universal health care in the US would
    be humane' or other similar questions?

    I'm happy to have 'scientific' beliefs defined as those with
    rational/empirical support, and 'faith' being defined as those beliefs
    without such support (for the time being at least ;-) I just think that all
    the most important things in life fall outside of the boundary.

    Sam

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