From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Apr 29 2005 - 23:20:39 BST
Arlo,
> Quality is best described, as you suggest, metaphorically as a "force".
> Semiosis holds that we do not experience this force "tabula rasa" (as would
> an amoeba or quartz crystal) but via contextual patterns that have been
> formed and passed down to use, culturally and historically, and solidified
> into particular symbolic representae.
As Pirsig (and Paul) pointed out, a baby has likes and dislikes (value
responses) before cultural influences. So experience of the "force" is "tabula
rosa." No doubt that as the child matures, the patterns you speak of come
into play.
> At any rate, short of the last sentance that I can't understand, I could do
> little better than what you've offered.
Thanks very much. It's great we can agree. My last sentence read:
"This force exhibits design because the initial state and the laws of the
universe actualize the states of value of our experience."
If you believe patterns are designs, and if you believe that the initial
Big Bang was followed by the creation of inorganic patterns according to
the DQ force and physical laws, then the resultant patterns (states of
value of our experience) suggest are larger design at work.
Of course, infinite regress is not far behind -- where did the larger
design come from? The only thing that can stop that, regardless of the how
creation is explained (God, Chief Buffalo, or whatever) , is someone
believing, "That's a high quality explanation." The idea that it was all
luck, chance or accidental explains nothing.
Make any sense to you?
Platt
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