From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sun Feb 09 2003 - 22:23:38 GMT
Hi David, others,
David said:
Lets back up and take a broad view. Since we're talking about the
relationship between ritual and intellect and between ritual and DQ, I think
it would be worthwhile to re-visit the transition period in ancient Greece.
This is something we started to approach before the holidays in the
"systematic about the Sophists" thread. I've extracted some of the quotes
from those posts because they seem to shed light on ritual, which is what
the Sophists were all about. I see that you'd rather hold off on that, but
it seems to me that it should come first. It'll make the specific assertions
made in Lila more clear.
Sam says: this is precisely what I'm trying to avoid - or rather, not avoid,
just postpone temporarily. This is where the meat of our disagreements lie.
I said earlier "are our disagreements a) over interpreting Pirsig, b) over
applying the MoQ to religious ritual, c) about our different understandings
of religious ritual, or d) something else again?" I think if we are really
going to get anywhere in our thinking - if we truly are going to make each
other think - then a little clearing of the ground before engaging mano e
mano would be useful.
So: please could you condense that (very interesting) post into a rephrasing
of element 3 (or other elements) so that we can gain some clarity over our
agreements and disagreements with respect to Pirsig - and *then* our
agreements and disagreements with respect to the rest. I'll then pause to
see if anyone else wants to join in the conversation before continuing.
Sam
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