From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Fri Jun 03 2005 - 16:22:38 BST
Platt,
Platt said:
Whether it's SO(1) or SO(2) seems irrelevant to me since both are static
subject-object intellectual patterns. As I interpret the MOQ, all thoughts
are static intellectual patterns that emerge after primary value
experience.
Scott:
Yes, a thought is a static intellectual pattern, once it is observed
(becomes O[2]). But what is it while it is being thought? The reason the
distinction between SO[1] and SO[2] is vital is that the SO[1] distinction
can be grasped in thought (the distinction is an item in O[2]), while the
SO[2] distinction cannot be, since for one thing it is created in the act of
making any distinction. As I said to Matt, SO[1] is an Aristotelian
opposition, and is subject to Aristotelian logic. That is not the case with
SO[2], which requires the logic of contradictory identity.
Platt said:
Contrary to what you've suggested previously, in writing our posts we're
not responding to DQ -- we're merely manipulating static language symbols
and meaning patterns stored in memory. People like Van Gogh, Einstein and
Pirsig responded to DQ.
Scott:
If that's what you believe, then you can be replaced by a machine. What you
are overlooking is the supreme mystery hidden within the word
"manipulating", and the mystery you sweep under the rug by the phrase
"stored in memory". This vocabulary falls apart once one actually
investigates language and memory.
Platt said:
Finally, the question of who or what experiences value presupposes the
static S/O split which comes only after the unity of Quality. As William
James pointed out, "This page (post) and the seeing of it are one
indivisible fact." In truth what you value is actually a union of you-
valuing Of course, to express it, we must divide it. Intellect is
divisive from the get go.
Scott:
I would agree if the "static S/O split" you refer to is SO[1]. My point is
that the SO[2] is not a static one. Intellect is indeed divisive from the
get-go, but it is also unifying from that same get-go. That is how all
creation works. Hence Intellect is Quality.
- Scott
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