Re: MD Matt's Critique of the SOL.

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Mon Jun 13 2005 - 22:35:19 BST

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    Joe,

    Scott said:
    It is because Pirsig avoids the dilemmas of language that his philosophy is
    inadequate. One must dive into language, equipped with the logic of
    contradictory identity.

    Joe replied:
    IMO for something to evolve 3 forces are necessary: +, -, 0 (neutral).
    Pirsig observed in the MOQ DQ(undefined), SQ(defined). Language determines
    the defined, undefined, and language is neutral. Active, Passive, neutral
    are all interchangeable and evolution occurs. DQ, SQ, L of CI, or SOL. It
    seems you are saying something similar, a perennial philosophy.

    Scott:
    No, what I am saying is that a semiotic event is not something that can be
    treated as an object (and so described as active, passive, or neutral). It
    involves (at least) a triad of interpretant, sign, and referent, it involves
    awareness, it involves intellect. It can't be treated as simply
    subject/object, but on the other hand it involves subject and object (in our
    experience). All that the MOQ or the perennial philosophy does is ignore
    these complications.

    - Scott

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