From: mark maxwell (laughingpines@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 04 2005 - 00:12:57 BST
Hi Mark M, Anthony:
3.
Platt: 7-3-05
Perhaps. But I think if you make a statement about
what Pirsig says you ought to be able to back it up
with a quotation from his work.
> From Anthony's PhD thesis:
>
> '...Pirsig... ...employs (an ontology) underpinned
by
> value based events...
>
> Mark 2-7-05:
> Ontology means, 'what exists' and Human beings
> 'exists.' So people are events.
>
> From Anthony's PhD thesis:
>
> ...These Quality events (or
> processes), therefore, obtain the status as the
> fundamental units or ‘primitives’ of the
> universe...
Not to be picky, but quoting Anthony is not the same
as quoting Pirsig.
Mark 3-7-05:
Well now, Anthony was fortunate enough to be able to
have Pirsig's comments upon his work before it was
presented.
The title of Anthony's thesis is, 'A critical analysis
of the MOQ' so it is a thoughrough academic enquiery
at the thinking behind, inside, and to some extent to
one side of everything that went into ZMM, Lila and
SODV plus years of personal Pirsig correspondance.
No, not the same as quoting Pirsig but i do feel to
are stretching picky to put it mildly. ;-)
Platt:
As
for your conclusion, I disagree that human beings are
characterized by
Pirsig as Quality events and "primitives of the
universe."
Mark 3-7-05:
This is not an entirely new suggestion. However, the
MOQ is new in that the events are evolving value
events.
The primitives spoken of here are the basic 'things'
in the universe. The universe is not made of 'things'
but events.
Now Humans are a long way down the evolutionary road,
so they are incredibly sophisticated events.
Think back to the 'nothing is ever the same' argument?
The MOQ deals with this by placing value at the centre
of events.
regards,
Mark
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