From: platootje@netscape.net
Date: Wed Jul 06 2005 - 11:55:13 BST
<hampday@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I hope to convince you otherwise. The notion that space is an attribute of
>physical reality that extends objects in three different dimensions relative
>to the observer is a construct of the human brain. From the perspective of
>an "absolute being" there is no space. There is no time either, since what
>we experience as the passing of time is our serialized view of a static
>"present". The existence of time and space as a cosmic system containing
>differentiated things and events is a rationalized precept resulting from
>our fragmented sensibility of otherness.
Except for maybe the wording, I totally agree with the above.
>That's because it IS SO. Existence is the mode of sensibility in which
>proprietary awareness confronts objectified otherness. I think most
>scientists would support that concept, inasmuch as it's based on empirical
>evidence.
It's probably the definion 'objectified otherness' that will cause more debat.
>I fail to see what value has to do with anything but the qualities of finite
>sensibilia as apperceived by the observer. How do you explain value as a
>differentiator?
I'd rather say value is the nominator, it put's a label on quality, and with placing the label, the acknowledgement is made that the opposite (or rather not-label) also exists.
Unity may be only quality, undifferentiated. (No real need to call it quality then but alas...) The moment a proton comes to existing is the moment that some portion of quality is valued as a proton. It's experienced isolated from the whole of quality, and the value placed upon it is proton. But not only this happens, also the remainder of the whole quality is labeled not-proton. Immediately the concept space arises because now there's a 'here' (from the proton's PoV) and a 'there' (anywhere around the proton), and there's time (now and before the proton).
>
>I'm afraid you've lost me here, Reinier. I'm unfamiliar with the term
>"unnominated quality" and don't recall Pirsig using it. You'll need a new
>metaphysical theory to articulate such a concept.
I don't know how or if Pirsig used it, but hopefully the above part explains what I mean with nominated quality, i.e. quality with a label attached to it.
Kind regards,
Reinier.
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