From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Jul 06 2005 - 12:57:29 BST
> > Hi Mark M:
> > So a human happening is unique, has a name, and is
> > aware. To me that's a pretty good description of
> > "self."
> >
> > Mark 4-7-05:
> > Hello Platt, you have been selective here have you
> > not? You have left out the 'happening' bit.
> > I am getting that spinning feeling.
>
> Hi Mark M:
> Did you not see "happening" as in "human happening"
> above.
>
> Mark 5-7-05:
> Yes i did read it. Am i correct in thinking that you
> have changed your view of self then?
First you say I left out something that was there. Then you say you knew
it was there all along. Now you ask if I've changed my view of self when I
said that you gave a good description of self. Sometimes I wonder if we
speak the same language.
> > Platt:
> > Me too, which means I hold someone like Pirsig in
> > higher regard than others.
> >
> > Mark 4-7-05:
> > Which means you hold the MOQ in higher regard than
> > other intellectual patterns.
>
> Platt:
> Yes. But I though we were talking about the quality of
> unique human happenings.
>
> Mark 5-7-05:
> Intellectual patterns play a part in unique happenings
> but there are also social patterns too. You may value
> the social patterns of a person but not value the
> intellectual patterns or vica versa.
Agree. That's the basis of the ad hominem fallacy.
> When discussing intellectual patterns it can be a good
> thing to bias those rather than use a name.
> Maybe i am being a bit nit picky here!?
> However, i bet if i hit you with some intellectual
> statements Karl Marx made but did not tell you who
> made them, you would be fooled into regarding him
> above some others? Maybe not!? ;)
I doubt it. :-)
> Asking question is not intellectual inquiry? That's a
> new one on me.
>
> Mark 5-7-05:
> Children can ask questions all day long and learn a
> great deal very quickly. I agree this is healthy
> intellectual activity. Maybe you should keep it up?
Nice to know you consider me a child. Did it occur to you I ask questions
because some of your thoughts aren't clearly expressed or make little
sense to me?
> Platt:
> Sorry. Can't agree to ignore the English language.
>
> Mark 5-7-05:
> I would not ask you to do so Platt.
But you did. You asked me to agree to using i instead of I when referring
to myself.
> Platt:
> Why more difficult in the U.S than, say, Britain? Can
> you give some
> examples of the "best" that they need to be inspired?
> Rock and roll
> perhaps?
>
> Mark 5-7-05:
> 'Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be, there
> will be an answer, let it be.'
See what I mean about making sense?
Best,
Platt
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