RE: MD NAZIs and Pragmatism

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Feb 13 2003 - 18:31:08 GMT

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    Hi Matt, Kevin, Scott, All:
     
    MATT:
    > Contra Scott, I
    > don't think metaphysics is something that is inescapable.

    Contra Pirsig, too. "As long as you're inside a logical, coherent universe
    of thought you can't escape metaphysics." (5)

    MATT:
    >I would say that Pirsig (at his best, pace Platt and Scott)
    >and Rorty are doing philosophy, but not metaphysics.
     
    Pirsig leaves no doubt he is doing metaphysics. "Getting drunk, picking
    up bar-ladies and writing metaphysics is part of life." (5)

    I agree with Scott that despite Matt's and Kevin's protestations, Rorty is
    very much into metaphysics. I would take it a step further and claim that
    Rorty is a fundamentalist. By donning a pair of glasses for a panoramic
    view, one can easily see that an anti-fundamentalist stance is itself
    foundational, and that Rorty's denial of absolute truth is itself an
    unqualified truth.

    Rorty's metaphysics is replete with such self-contradictions. It tells us
    for a fact that there are no facts. It disavows certainty in no uncertain
    terms. It makes universal judgments while simultaneously denouncing
    universal judgments. It claims its argument is right while at the same
    time assuring us that all distinctions between right and wrong, valid and
    invalid, acceptable and erroneous based on consistent principles is
    wrong.

    But it's Rorty's assault on truth that concerns me most. Because when
    question arises as to what society ought to forbid and what it ought to
    allow, and enough people following Rorty's lead believe that an appeal to
    universal truth (We hold these truths to be self-evident . . .) to be
    hopelessly outdated and possibly dangerous, raw power will fill the
    vacuum. Even in a discussion group like this where truth can be
    accepted as simply a matter of taste because it cannot be used to
    impose restrictions on anyone, it should still serve as standard for
    judging an argument's quality. In answering Dan Glover's question in
    Lila's Child, "What distinguishes a high quality intellectual idea from a
    lower quality one? "Pirsig's answer, "It's truth."

    When you undermine the concept of truth as a transcendental reality
    (beauty, goodness and truth) and substitute political criteria such as
    usefulness or "intersubjective agreement," you're vulnerable to waking
    up in a society where the truth is taken over by the government, as
    British philosopher Roger Scruton discovered:

    "Perhaps the most fascinating and terrifying aspect of Communism was
    its ability to banish truth from human affairs and to force whole
    populations to 'live within the lie,' as President Havel put it. To me it was
    the greatest revelation when I first traveled to Czechoslovakia in 1979 to
    come face to face with a situation in which people could, at any
    moment, be removed from the book of history, in which truth could not
    be uttered, and in which the Party could decide from day to day not only
    what would happen tomorrow, but also what had happened today, what
    had happened yesterday, and what had happened before its leaders
    were born."

    No wonder Pirsig comes down hard on the "moral right of the intellect to
    be free of social control," saying "it is essential to the evolution of a
    higher level of life from a lower level of life." (24) In other words,
    fundamental. Keep truth away from "what every knowledgeable person
    says."

    Platt

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