Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Society

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Mon Jul 11 2005 - 01:10:08 BST

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    MSH, Platt...

    Just have to jump in here a still missing aspect of my parallel discussion with
    Platt...

    > Yes. Anti-trust laws are based on the fallacy that a free market will
    > inevitably lead to monopolies. But the Austrian school of economics
    > maintains that government intervention into the economy has been the cause
    > of the few monopolies that have historically existed, like the salt
    > monopoly in 18th century France.

    What Platt has still yet to produce is one example (outside brutal military
    dictatorships and small island economies subject to embargos), either
    historical or global, where "less CEP" (or defined here as "government
    interference in business") has led to "higher Quality" lives for the majority
    of citizens.

    That is, private wealth interests and wealthy capitalists can "say" all they
    want that we would all be better off without anti-trust laws (as one example),
    but where is any supportive historical or global example showing this?

    Were Americans, for example, "better off" before anti-trust laws? Were we
    "better off" before labor regulations on the workplace? A short perusal of
    history will indicate that we were not. However, I am all ears. If someone can
    explain to me how we were better off with "less government interference", or
    show me one historical or global example that supports the idea that abolishing
    anti-trust laws favors the majority (and not simply private wealth interests),
    I'd be quite interested.

    To paraphrase Pirsig: All this talk about how we'd be better off with no
    anti-trust laws, and no labor rules, is carried out under the guise of
    "individual worth", but its quite obviously "an excuse for giving more money to
    the rich" (in ZMM).

    Or more exactly: "The conservatives who keep trumpeting about the virtues of
    free enterprise are normally just supporting their own self-interest. They are
    just doing the usual cover-up for the rich in their age-old exploitation of the
    poor." (in LILA)

    And remember that Pirsig is not against "social planning". He states " There’s a
    place for them but they’ve got to be built on a foundation of Quality within
    the individuals involved." It is not an abolishion of social planning, but a
    revisioning of the foundation upon which social planning occurs.

    Pirsig's own motivation was to get individuals seeing the "Good is a noun, not
    an adjective" and that "Quality is the source of subjects and objects". He'd
    say, I believe, that before we waste time building more social programs based
    on the current ideology, we need to get individuals seeing this new way. He
    would NOT, I'd argue, say that the solution is abolish social planning and let
    business and private wealth run rampant. Within our materialist paradigm, such
    a thing would prove utterly disadvantageous for the majority of citizens.
    History bears this out.

    Arlo

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