Re: MD MOQ in time and space

From: Michael Hamilton (thethemichael@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Jul 13 2005 - 09:50:25 BST

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    Hang on, Ham!

    You wrote:
    > The problem, of course, is that he [Eckhart] mentions the G-- word, which is verboten
    > in Pirsig's Quality Land. In the one reply I received from Prisig
    > concerning my thesis, he wrote, "positivists usually deny 'essence' as
    > something like 'God' or 'the absolute' and dismiss it [as] experimentally
    > unverifiable, which is to say they think you are some kind of religious
    > nut." So anti-theistic are the MoQ people that they cringe from a full
    > metaphysical thesis for fear of being labeled "religious"! They've accused
    > me of having a "religious agenda". So I sincerely hope you are not also
    > offended by a concept that most people equate with a deity.

    Are you equating "MoQ-people" with the "positivists" mentioned by
    Pirsig? Nothing could be further from the truth. That Pirsig quote, as
    I interpret it, places him on your side!

    A lot of the time, I find "God" used in a very similar way to how I
    would use "DQ". Both are supposed to have created the world that we
    experience. Have there been MD discussions on this point? Because I
    must say, Ham, that I'm rather surprised at the emphasis you place on
    points such as this, while you seem to assume that you're saying
    something that MD'ers find outrageous. How did you come to this
    conclusion? You seem to label most MoQ'ers as nihilists, but how can
    that be, when the MoQ says that values and morals are real - indeed
    that they are built into the fabric of reality?

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