Re: MD Theism, Non-Theism, Anti-Theism, Nihilism

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Jul 15 2005 - 14:16:31 BST

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    Hi Ham,

    Permit me to chime in.

    > If quality is the "stimulus our environment puts upon us to create the
    > world", then the environment is the primary cause, and we are the world's
    > creators. But what is the "environment" if not our physical reality?
    > Thus, stripped of its poetry, the assertion being made here is that reality
    > forces us to create reality. That such a tautology continues to impress
    > Pirsig's followers is a tribute to the author's word mastery rather than
    > his metaphysical logic.

    I think "environment" in this context means more than physical reality. I
    think it also includes things like our legal system, the liberal arts, and
    intimations of immortality, i.e., the full spectrum of our experience --
    physical, mental and spiritual.

    > The (otherwise plausible) concept that man creates
    > his own reality loses logical credibility, unless something else -- Being,
    > Spirit, Energy, Consciousness, Essence? -- is posited as the primary
    > source.

    Didn't you omit "Quality" as a primary source? Pirsig didn't.

    Best,
    Platt

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