Re: MD Theism, Non-Theism, Anti-Theism, Nihilism

From: skutvik@online.no
Date: Thu Jul 21 2005 - 15:58:59 BST

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    Hi Marsha

    18 July you wrote:

    > At 05:41 PM 7/17/2005 +0200, Bo wrote:
    > >Finally, Pirsig is correct: the MOQ is anti-theist, no need to waver
    > >on that point. Intellect is the highest value and the social level
    > >(of which traditional Semitic religions are relics of) is subordinate
    > >to it. But because intellect is a static level it is subordinate to
    > >MOQ's DQ/SQ system. And this have put things in a new light; the
    > >Semitic kind of religions are still a lower value level, but the MOQ
    > >have reinstated GOOD as the central issue.
     
    > Ignore last post. I stated it incorrectly.
    > Greetings,
     
    > Bo, I find your post very interesting. I would like to hear about
    > GOOD as a noun rather than an adjective. It would seem to me that as
    > a NOUN, GOOD drops the subjectivity to become systems of preference or
    > probability in a much more objective way?

    Thanks
    I have studied your:

    "...as a NOUN, GOOD drops the subjectivity to become systems
    of preference or probability in a much more objective way"?

    but am still not sure if I understand it. In my opinion subjectivity is
    dropped along with objectivity by dropping the S/O as reality's
    ground and adopting the DQ/SQ one.

    But naturally the VALUE of the S/O distinction can't be dropped
    and .....

    [An aside: Anyone know Dicken's "David Copperfield" and the
    Mister Dick character who - when writing some book - is plagued
    with King James (of the English revolution war) entering the text.
    I seem not able to say anything unless the SOL pops up ;-]

    ....where is the S/O to be placed inside the MOQ? Naturally as
    the intellectual level. It's written all over LILA, but by the stilted
    way that Pirsig proposes the SOM returns in force, and that way
    subjectivity can't be removed. To the contrary it is made the base
    of the MOQ!

    But my opponents are just more than happy because they have
    never moved an iota from the SOM.

    > I know I'm thinking above my pay scale, but it's what I think about.
     
    Maybe we all are, but it's like the MOQ has opened some
    floodgate.

    Bo

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