RE: MD Racist Remarks

From: Laycock, Jos (OSPT) (Jos.Laycock@OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK)
Date: Fri Jul 29 2005 - 15:26:18 BST

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    Hi Ian

    Please accept an apologetic preface to the following remarks, I am almost
    sure that I misunderstand you, and if this is the case then I would be
    grateful for further explanation:

    When I read back what you have written all it does is convert black and
    white, into mud.
    I honestly did not intend any specific judgements from what I originally
    wrote but I still maintain that whether or not "we" are directly appraised
    of it, the MOQ has a moral standpoint on all things.

    When you say "relatively static latches" what do you mean? The underlying
    dichotomy that is accepted within the MOQ is the difference between static
    and dynamic, so how can you imply that there can be a relativism? Either a
    latch is static or it is not a latch.
    I agree that the mechanisms that generate cultural viewpoints may result
    from dynamic interactions but I don't understand the impact that this
    acceptance has, on an "all seeing MOQ".
    If we were talking about material existence here I would have no problem,
    but I referred to morality and value.

    I don't care what the truth is, just what is better, and the "fact" that
    viewpoints move relative to their own social context does not alter their
    relationship with the underlying moral framework.

    To summarise, I maintain that cultures are inherently comparable and that a
    value truth can be accurately ascribed to that comparison.

    Jos

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
    [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of ian glendinning
    Sent: 29 July 2005 02:54
    To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Subject: Re: MD Racist Remarks

    Jos,

    Perhaps there is a middle view ...

    Say, It is viewpoint specific, but the viewpoints are not wholly
    subjective. What we have is a framework of relatively static latches
    with dynamic mechanisms for shifting them and moving viewpoints
    between them.

    Ian

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