From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Thu Aug 11 2005 - 06:55:16 BST
Hi all,
Any one of my charges against the Faux Philosopher can and has been
verified countless times in past discussions on this list. However,
I'll be happy to provide abundant evidence and argument to support my
opinions to anyone who is not convinced by reading from the list
alone.
Just contact me. Couple more notes below...
On 9 Aug 2005 at 17:20, Platt Holden wrote:
> msh:
> There's not much to get, really. Far from expressing the ideas of a
> unique individual, the political blitherings of the Faux Philosopher
(ad hominem attack)
msh:
The political blithering has been proved. This is simply a statement
of fact.
> are repeated ad nauseum, in near unison, by countless millions of
> privileged white people in the USA.
(blatant bigotry)
msh:
That the political blithering is repeated ad nauseum is obvious to
anyone who spends a little time listening...
> Just listen to TFP's primary
> sources of information, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.
(no evidence)
msh:
Direct correlation between political blithering heard here, and heard
on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Obvious to anyone who listens.
> There's high
> irony in TFP's continuous appeal for recognition of the individual
> "genius," standing alone in his tireless battle to set the world
> aright.
(no evidence)
msh:
As I say, the irony is obvious. Write, if you need some help...
> Please review the "Moral Society" threads to see how such "original
> thinkers" engage in philosophical discussion. What's sad is that his
> brainless repetition
(ad hominem attack)
msh:
See above...
> of debunked ideas
(no evidence)
msh:
See the "Moral Society" thread for many examples; or any other thread
of political "discussion" between TFP and myself. Or just review the
"Carousel of Faux Philosophy" or "Racist Remarks" threads.
> keeps pouring forth, turning this
> list into just another portal for ill-informed
(ad hominem attack)
msh:
"Ill-informed" follows from debunked ideas.
> right-wing invective.
(no evidence)
msh:
Again, compare Limbaugh, O'Reilley, etc. Or even recent remarks from
TFP himself, for example those starting the "Racist Remarks" thread.
> I
> wonder how many lurkers, having read Pirsig, have come and gone without a
> word when they see such a perversion of RMP's philosophy.
(no evidence)
msh:
Unrefuted evidence has been presented in a wide variety of threads,
and not just by me. This does not stop TFP from repeating the same
vile misinterpretations over and over again, a method of
disinformation learned from Limbaugh and other dittoheads, and which
derives directly from the Nazi propagandists Goering and Goebbels:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for
such time as the State can shield the people from the political,
economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes
vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress
dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by
extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
msh continues:
More evidence and argument will be presented in the thread entitled
"Lila-24."
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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