Re: MD What it means to believe in the orthodox Christian God

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Wed Aug 17 2005 - 20:17:03 BST

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    Hi Chuck (I am right in thinking you're Chuck aren't you, I don't want to
    presume anything)

    I just hit 'reply' on the last one, so a) you got it quickly, but b) it
    didn't go through the MD system. So I'm sending this to both.

    It's less that I have personified the latter, than that it is only engaged
    through relationship. So knowledge follows from affective insight, not vice
    versa. Or, put differently, love is the highest form of knowledge.

    As for being crucified, yes, it's hard to believe. But that's what I think
    Christianity is about.

    Cheers
    Sam

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Charles Roghair" <bogart_215@mac.com>
    To: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:53 PM
    Subject: Re: MD What it means to believe in the orthodox Christian God

    > Hello Sam:
    >
    > That which one can "fall in love with" is a mind-boggling qualification
    > to distinguish divinity in one abstraction as opposed to another. So
    > the difference between the paradoxical, abstract construct "infinity" and
    > the paradoxical, abstract construct "God" is that you've personified the
    > latter?
    >
    > Also, depending on one's idea of "love," there may be a mathematician or
    > two out there who "love" infinity...at least they lust after it I'll bet.
    >
    > Finally, it's hard for me to imagine anyone under any circumstances
    > persuading me to get crucified. Perhaps if Pontius Pilate ordered it and
    > he had a bunch of Roman soldiers backing him, or my wife and kid's well
    > being was on the line. Admittedly, in case God does exist, it's possible
    > he alone would possess the chutzpah to would use my child against me in
    > such a fashion. Just ask Abraham!
    >
    > Peace, C.
    >
    >
    > On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Sam Norton wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Chuck,
    >>
    >>
    >>> Sam:
    >>>
    >>> Isn't most of what you say here another way of stating that God is an
    >>> abstract construct of human consciousness? Like infinity?
    >>>
    >>> Just wondering.
    >>>
    >>
    >> You can't fall in love with infinity. At least, not how I understand it.
    >> And I doubt if infinity could persuade you to get crucified.
    >>
    >> Sam
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >

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