Re: MD Pirsig the postmodernist?

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Feb 26 2003 - 19:29:56 GMT

  • Next message: Ascmjk@aol.com: "Re: MD Pirsig the postmodernist?"

    a related thought...
    Jonathan Edwards brought idealism and pragmatism together with the statement
    that "things are as they appear to be." This is both a reassuring
    affirmation of reality absolutely existing and not being some sort of
    illusion or indeterminancy ("things _are_ as they appear"), and also at the
    same time it is an explainion of how things exist ("_as they appear to be_,
    things are").

    >Jon,
    >
    > > I believe what
    > > Matt is saying is that both Pirsig and postmodernism
    > > say that certain aspects
    > > of reality are indefinable.
    >
    >What I'm saying goes beyond this - my view on Pirsig's
    >application regarding postmodernism is that he deals
    >with how to live, or moreover, how to think, within a
    >world where indeterminacy has recently been shown to
    >strike blows for the big universal concepts that have
    >dominated our lives, and our thinking, up until the
    >middle of the 20th century. You can deny that
    >absolute morals exist (a simplistic example of
    >postmodernity), but you can't deny that there exist
    >certain patterns of value that favour certain moral
    >configurations (Pirsig) - hence Pirsig helps forge a
    >new 'thought' that allows one to cope better with
    >indeterminacy than SOM.
    >
    >Matt
    >
    >__________________________________________________
    >Do You Yahoo!?
    >Everything you'll ever need on one web page
    >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
    >http://uk.my.yahoo.com
    >
    >
    >MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    >Mail Archives:
    >Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    >Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    >MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
    >
    >To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    >http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
    >

    _________________________________________________________________
    MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*.
    http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

    MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    Mail Archives:
    Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net

    To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Wed Feb 26 2003 - 19:30:21 GMT