Re: MD ZMM--See what he saw?

From: Dario Savella (dario_moq@growingman.com)
Date: Sun Aug 21 2005 - 04:27:19 BST

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    Hi Marsha (and C.L. and...)

    Thanks. I really liked this thread/discussion.

    The major reaction I had after reading ZMM and Lila was one of immense joy.
    I always thought that there was something "different" and "wrong" in me as
    I couldn't see the rest of the world function along the same "principles"
    that seemed to have instinctively grown inside me.
    After reading the book I saw that someone out there had been able to put on
    paper what I could only perceive with my intuition.
    I was not alone.

    I agree with Marsha in noticing how the masculine / feminine split has been
    overlooked in the MoQ.

    As man, I've seen my "view" on women change from the biological impulses of
    my youth to a sort of envious resentment ("They" can give birth... and I
    can't !) and now to adoration.

    It was difficult to go past the hurdle created by the desire ( typically
    masculine ) to understand and therefore control the unbelievable source of
    energy and power that's "inside" a woman (i.e. all the Captain's questions
    and Lila's accusations of men destrying women ).
    I reached adoration when I realised that I was not supposed to control
    "it", but merely to allow it to be. I was able to relax and enjoy it
    without trying to fix it.

    I hope that, slowly, the human race will recover from this "equalitarian"
    balance where so many women are trying to be like men because the values of
    society dictate so by making "it" look better and in doing so they give up
    they own gifts.
    It's like we are all in the middle of a see-saw because otherwise it's
    difficult to balance it.
    We ended up in a crowded place and there's very little fun.

    I've found a bit disappointing that Phaedrus gave up on the challenge
    reprresented by Lila and that he passed on to Rigel.

    I suspect that at some point in the future, when men will finally reach the
    top of the mountain, we'll find women sitting there. It won't make the
    challenge less worthy, it just gives it perspective.

    Dario

    At 07:32 PM 20/08/2005, Marsha wrote:

    >Why do I think the Feminine, Lila, women are closer to Dynamic Quality?
    >
    >Because their particular traits are not valued, they have done underground
    >and are only vaguely known. There's lots of leftover SQ discriptors, but
    >that's all. Stereotypical stuff. Women's way of knowing has fallen back
    >into DQ. Women and the feminine in men touch it when they need it by
    >accessing DQ. I suspect women often reach for it when they need to
    >survive. Men may reach for it when they need to think outside the norm.
    >
    >Just more thoughts.
    >
    >Marsha

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