From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Sep 20 2005 - 15:30:25 BST
Arlo,
Platt previously
> >In future conversations I'll try to keep in mind that you're against
> >affirmative action, gun control, social security status quo, abortion
> >rights, moral relativity (postmodernism)
Arlo
> Aaahhh... now cut that out. "Moral relativity" and "postmodernism" are not
> synonyms. Besides the fact that there are many strands of what is
> generically labeled "postmodernism", most do not preach something as banal
> as "moral relativism". Pirsig is, in fact, in many ways a postmodernist.
OK. Point well taken. Glad you agree that there are universal moral
standards.
> > and redistribution of income
> >(although I wonder how that can be when you favor welfare with two
> >asterisks).
>
> Well... namely because I don't think "welfare" is "redistribution of
> income". I think of it as a moral social obligation to not let poor people
> starve, or go shelterless, or die due to illnesses they don't have capital
> to treat. Now, as far as saying that the bureaucratic system of "welfare"
> needs fixing and tweaking and redress in certain areas, I'd completely
> agree. Calling it a "redistribution of income" is like condemning public
> libraries for "taking knowledge from the rich and giving it to the poor".
Haven't we been around this barn before? Libraries, roads, parks, etc. do
not normally come under the meaning of "welfare" which is comprised of
such items as food stamps, aid to families with dependent children,
Medicaid and the like. In other words, the government redistributes income
earned by those who work to those who don't. Social security is a prime
example.
> >As for the against list, I guess M stands for money but I've
> >no idea what K, T and V stand for.
>
> Money. Killing. Theocracy. Violence.
> > Finally, your taxes have probably
> >increased due to your increased income over the last 6 years, thanks to
> >Dubya's economic policies, but no thanks to the unfair, unequal
> >progressive income tax.
>
> Actually, over the past 5 years I have had no real raise in income, an
> insubstantial 1.5% here and there, but we are constantly told there is no
> money for salary increases. So, not only am I paying more taxes now than 5
> years ago, but with inflation my income is actually less. Before that
> period, we had been receiving cost-of-living raises as well as performance
> raises.
How could you be paying more taxes if your tax bracket has remained the
same? As for raises, do you work for a tax-supported organization?
I agree with you about inflation. It's a hidden tax the government imposes
to pay off its debts in cheaper dollars. Fiat money always ruins countries
sooner or later.
Platt
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