Re: MD The MOQ implies that there is more to reality than DQ & SQ.

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Thu Sep 29 2005 - 02:09:20 BST

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    Strike my last post. (I got a name confused.)
    It should read:

    Bo, Matt, Reinier --

    Matt on 9/24 said:

    > I've suggested on occasion that the consequence of
    > Pirsig's claims about experience being synonymous with
    > reality is that other terms dancing around in the same
    > sphere, like consciousness, are also thusly redescribed.
    > On my reading, if we are willing to suppose that rocks
    > experience other rocks, then we could also just as
    > easily say that rocks are conscious of other rocks.>

    Bo injects:
    > Rather ..."Quality synonymous with reality"
    > (experience=reality is a tautology)

    I'm glad someone finally noticed that. Experience=Quality is also a
    tautology, at least as Pirsig uses Quality. That makes the major premise of
    the MoQ a logical fallacy!

    Be on guard, though, Bo. Matt cannot be so easily trapped. I have a
    strong feeling that these statements are facetious and that Matt has a
    logical -- if somewhat philosophological -- explanation behind them.

    I'm still waiting for him to tell us what "different kind of consciousness"
    accounts for a rock's ability to experience other rocks.

    (I guess "intellectual" answers take a little more time ;-)

    Sorry about the error, Reinier.

    Regards,
    Ham

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