Re: MD The MOQ implies that there is more to reality than DQ & SQ

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Thu Sep 29 2005 - 05:13:49 BST

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    Scott and David --

    If I may intercede here, gentlemen...

    We all seem to be picking up on potentiality and actuality of late, and I
    think there are two ways of defining what is "actual", just as there are two
    ways of defining reality. In a sense both of you are correct.

    When Scott asserts that "imaginings are actual, not potential", he is
    referring to what happens in existence. Since existence is defined by
    experience, he is using "actual" to denote not only the objects and events
    experienced in the physical world, but also thoughts and concepts which are
    experienced reflections of that world. In that sense, the division is not
    between the mental and the physical, but between (ultimate) reality and
    existence.

    David, on the other hand, is using "potential" as applied to the free choice
    each of us enjoys to make decisions. Thus, he can choose to cross the
    street or not cross the street; he can turn left or right, etc. That is HIS
    potential as an "actualized" free agent. It is not, however -- as I think
    Scott recognizes -- the potential that is primary to David's existence (or
    his experience of reality). And that's where the confusion arises.

    I don't know whether either of you have been influenced by my discussion
    with Reinier concerning Cusa's 'Coincidence of contradictions theory'. This
    applies only to 'the first principle' (could be Quality or Essence), and it
    asserts that the potential for contrariety is the essence of this primary
    principle or source. (At least, that is my interpretation.)

    Therefore, if you reject the concept of a primary source (as I suspect David
    does), you will see potential only in terms of human choices or the
    evolutionary "possibilities" of Nature. To avoid such confusion, I have
    suggested that we refer to the differentiated, transitional world of
    experienced things and thoughts as "existence", and the uncreated, immutable
    ground of experience as "reality" -- or "ultimate reality".

    Whether "potential/actual" can be successfully "aligned with" DQ/SQ, as
    Scott suggests, is a question for you and other MoQers to answer.

    Hope this helps.

    Essentially yours,
    Ham

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