Fw: MD The MOQ implies that there is more to reality than DQ & SQ.

From: David M (davidint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sun Oct 02 2005 - 19:00:39 BST

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    From: "David M" <davidint@blueyonder.co.uk>
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    Subject: Re: MD The MOQ implies that there is more to reality than DQ & SQ.

    > Hi Matt
    >
    > See comments.
    >
    > (This is how I think people should take my suggestion about getting rid of
    > metaphysics. I'm not suggesting we get rid of "defining," I'm suggesting
    > we
    > get rid of "hard cuts." The smell of paradox arises in Pirsig because the
    > metaphysical terminology was developed to be
    > "defining-as-making-hard-cuts."
    > Pirsig uncouples "defining" from "hard cuts," but everything in the
    > language still revolves around those "hard cuts," so it sometimes sounds
    > like bad metaphysical-as-hard-cuts instead of innocuous
    > metaphysical-as-defining. All I'm suggesting is that Pirsig can look less
    > paradoxical if we use a different set of terms to describe what he's up
    > to.)
    >
    > Matt
    >
    >
    > DM: I pretty much agree with what you say. What different set of terms
    > are you referring to in the last sentence? By the way I think you would
    > dig John Dupre's The Disorder of Things. I really don't care if we see
    > DQ/SQ as a metaphysical distinction or not, but to be trully ironist it
    > counts as a metaphysical distinction because it potentially has the same
    > kind of
    > conceptual impact and territory as subject/object, you never know we might
    > be
    > able to build a more ironist sort of civilisation on it for a couple of
    > thousand years,
    > a map that makes new journeys possible.
    >
    >
    >
    >

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