From: Erin (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Oct 21 2005 - 06:02:14 BST
I never said you used the concept of
"pre-information". I used it.
Let me expand, maybe it will make more sense...the
idea of pre-information doesn't make sense to me so it
seems reasonable that pre-intellectual wouldn't
either....seems hard to imagine how there could be
information without intellect.
I think you actually touched about what I intersted in
another post where you talk about meaning. I am not
clear about how I feel about "information without
meaning" ....hard for me to see that. I know you
didn't say what is in quotes either, I am saying it.
(just like i put the idea of pre-information out
because pre-intellectual to me seems to imply
pre-information)
Erin
--- ian glendinning < > wrote:
> Sorry Erin,
>
> I don't think I used the words or the concept of
> "pre-information" -
> so I don't understand the specific question.
>
> My conjecture was / is - Information exists at all
> levels in the MoQ
> model of reality. Whatever happens between immediate
> experience and
> intellectual awarness (and any other layers in
> between you care to
> name) is fundamentally about communicating and
> transforming
> information - everywhere - just a conjecture.
>
> More to do with physics than the MoQ. I latched onto
> your quote
> because, although I see language as important, I
> don't subscribe to
> "everything is language", but there is more than a
> grain of truth in
> the metaphor, if language is simply about
> communicating information.
>
> Ian
>
> On 10/18/05, Erin < > wrote:
> > Then how is "pre-information" different from
> > "pre-intellectual"?
> >
> > Erin
> >
> > --- ian glendinning < > wrote:
> >
> > > Erin, et al ...
> > >
> > > Erin quoted McKenna
> > > "I don't believe the world is made of quarks or
> > > elctromagnetic waves,
> > > or stars, or planets, or any of these things. I
> > > believe the world is
> > > made of language"
> > >
> > > I say - O Wow, another addition to my reading
> list.
> > > I say I believe quarks and waves are made of
> > > "information", exactly as
> > > is language (and Quality for that matter).
> > >
> > > The world is made of information (full stop) - I
> > > have little doubt.
> > > The dreams that stuff is made of - almost
> literally.
> > > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=1111
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
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